anyone remember those kingdom ministry parts we had to attend a month before the summer convention about not saving seats and not eating during the program.
even our behaivor in the hotel pool was admonished!
and don't walk around the halls during the program, hold that boo-boo till intermission holmes!
I can't remember anyone saving rows of seats with rope, and wouldn't understand why the hell they would!
When assemblies were held in open stadiums, huge blocks of seats were always roped off by ??? in the shady areas, so those of us who arrived at the appropriate 'open' time were sh*t out of luck. Pretty miserable as a kid all dressed up sitting in the hot summer sun at yankee stadium.
the few years that i was an active witness, i can't say that i was very happy.
i really didn't mind missing a meeting.
i always felt that a meeting every 2 days for the rest of my life was a little exaggerated.
No, NO, and NOOOO! It felt like being on a sadistic treadmill, if that makes any sense. Having been raised as one, I wouldn't recognize happiness if it bit me on the butt ! But now, life is a pleasure and I enjoy it to the max
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just wondering who this guy is - can anyone help?!
growedup.
When I was 18, I was put before a committee meeting by my father as the cong overseer, with Ted Jaracz (District overseer) presiding, can't remember the third member, he was the circuit overseer. The tactics were harsh, I cried out of frustration and disbelief at how I was being treated. A friend (?) of mine had reported seeing a clay 'pot' pipe in the rear window of my car. Apparentely my then jw boyfriend had left it there. I had no idea. Neither did I have an opinion about marijuana as at the time I knew nothing about it. Those 3 literally verbally harangued (word?) me for hours until I had cried myself out and told them I thought it was evil and of the devil. Their problem with me was my refusal for them to force a stand on my part, the devil's weed or their satisfaction that my will had been broken.
when i was a jw -i heard gary botting being interviewed on radio (-he was not da or df) for writing this book -so i read it.... one of the sisters told me ( her hubby was an elder) i had been marked for reading it.
imagine my surprise when i read this weekend that his wife (heather)who wrote it with gary.
is now a pagan chaplain at the university of victoria she will lead dozens of students through a series.
I haven't read the book but have heard about it.
when the WT is finished with us --- we sure do choose differant paths
I think the WT org does a pretty good job of tearing apart all other organized religion for us (ex's). Yet the human seems to crave spirituality, so where do we turn??? How about to having our own personal relationship with the 'Divine' ? The org cannot destroy that nor can they prove anything wrong with it. The bible as I have come to see it is questionable at best as to being a guide for life and spirituality. Paganism is a personal spiritual relationship with the 'Divine'. This is what the above mentioned author is described as practicing. Paganism is nothing more than spirituality without christianity.
ok, here's a problem that i am looking for a little advice with.
my fiance is an ex jw and his parents (and other family members) are still practicing.
they have pretty much totally cut him off since he moved in with me.
BillyGoat just said it soooo well. I did & had almost the exact same experience with my wedding a couple of years ago, except my family did'nt even respond to the invitations. I was very glad they were not there, but it is also sad to not have your family there and happy for you. My husband and his family and our friends showed enough love to make up for it though. But your hubby to be may appreciate you understanding that even if he says he doesn't care if they are there or would really rather they weren't, there is still a little sad spot in the heart when those who are supposed care about you the most show publicly they don't.
Best Wishes and be Very Very Happy
i've been seeing a very nice guy for two months now, every day, almost every minute.
as you know it can become very obvious when a guy is about to pop the question.. i have been very honest with him about when i'd be willing to marry, which is to say not until i graduate from college which is still a 1 1/2 years away, of course i hear things like "well a couple can wait but be commited right"?.
anyway i've bounced this off of my friends and have several opinions already but i thought i'd ask it here.. how long would you date someone before you considered accepting an engagement ring?
He fell in love with me and I with him. That stuff happens.
Yes it does, but that does not mean you need to get married. You have no idea now (and no, I do not know you, but I do know the female/bi nature) you will and I repeat will, go through personal value changes in your late 20's and again in your late 30's, although not as drastic in the late 30's. How can I be so sure? I have experienced it myself and have observed it many times over.
Stacy, if you are asking...that should be your first hint. Getting married in our late teens, early 20's is a very JW "thing to do".
A little personal experience: I met my current husband when he (a very fortunate person with no religeous upbringing) was 19, and I was ahem... he very obviously and clearly fell in love, and I recognized him to be a "worthy" mate. But I had other places to be, people to see, responsibilites to take care of (2 children from a jw marriage), and experiences to have. Well once these things were all done (8 yrs later), if you will, I decided it was time to have a significant other. Within a 6month period, I realized he was sitting right in front of me all 'growed up' and quietly waiting for me to wake up)! It has now been 8+yrs and going frightenly strong.
I raised my children to not consider getting married until their late 20's and to not do it till then or their early 30's. It has proven to be wise advice.
Listen to your heart at the gut level,
Many bright blessings, RedWitch
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twas only a pity party thread but i changed my mind and edited it out, life is to short to focus on the bad.
move along.....:)
Oh...pity please kitty...try again
Nos - you are only too cool!
be nice on this thread, please!
i don't want to see it get locked b/c of some people!.
do you think he's guilty?
be nice on this thread, please!
i don't want to see it get locked b/c of some people!.
do you think he's guilty?
| My gut instinct tells me it is only smoke...and for all the reasons already stated by those of you who feel or want to think he is not guilty. Even if a guilty verdict comes up, who really knows if it is true or not? only those who were supposedly involved. Shamus wrote: He was beaten almost daily... pretty horrible upbringing. Abuse, no matter what form, causes our minds to protect itself in many ways, Schitzo, multiple personalities, uncontrolled reactions when put under certain conditions, and it goes on... I used to also see 'Wolfman Jack' with the Jackson family at assemblies, does anyone know if Wolfman stuck with it or wisely left the borg??? |
anything in particular, or was it a combination of things??
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| Thank you Homey, you flatter me...but I am happily married at this time. And he's a young one, about your age, so I think this will be lasting a long time. |
